Comments on: Why I moved from Ruby on Rails to Python/Django and back http://blog.carlmercier.com/2007/01/30/why-i-moved-from-ruby-on-rails-to-pythondjango-and-back/ me = entrepreneur + hacker; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:00:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Johnathon WIlliams http://blog.carlmercier.com/2007/01/30/why-i-moved-from-ruby-on-rails-to-pythondjango-and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-30200 Johnathon WIlliams Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:06:37 +0000 http://blog.carlmercier.com/?p=53#comment-30200 I use both these frameworks, and really, they are both excellent. Django is slightly better for content websites and Rails has the edge for apps, but overall I find them both heavenly compared to my Java . As for the 'fun' thing, I dont really agree. I prefer to see myself as a 'Djanog person' as Rails is like the Spice Girls come to web dev. The community is full of fanboy 16 yo's who think they know everything. Go to a Ruby conf and you'll see what im talking about. I use both these frameworks, and really, they are both excellent. Django is slightly better for content websites and Rails has the edge for apps, but overall I find them both heavenly compared to my Java . As for the ‘fun’ thing, I dont really agree. I prefer to see myself as a ‘Djanog person’ as Rails is like the Spice Girls come to web dev. The community is full of fanboy 16 yo’s who think they know everything. Go to a Ruby conf and you’ll see what im talking about.

]]> By: Puneet http://blog.carlmercier.com/2007/01/30/why-i-moved-from-ruby-on-rails-to-pythondjango-and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-13862 Puneet Mon, 04 May 2009 09:31:23 +0000 http://blog.carlmercier.com/?p=53#comment-13862 Nice, But I loved Django. I have tried Symphony which sucks like anything and Rails was little strange as I new python more then ruby. ~Puneet Nice, But I loved Django. I have tried Symphony which sucks like anything and Rails was little strange as I new python more then ruby.

~Puneet

]]> By: Jon R http://blog.carlmercier.com/2007/01/30/why-i-moved-from-ruby-on-rails-to-pythondjango-and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-8659 Jon R Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:59:12 +0000 http://blog.carlmercier.com/?p=53#comment-8659 You really should have tried Pylons (http://pylonshq.com/) instead of Django. Yeah, Django has all the press; it was invented by journalists. Pylons is still better. You really should have tried Pylons (http://pylonshq.com/) instead of Django. Yeah, Django has all the press; it was invented by journalists. Pylons is still better.

]]> By: Carl Mercier http://blog.carlmercier.com/2007/01/30/why-i-moved-from-ruby-on-rails-to-pythondjango-and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-8472 Carl Mercier Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:42:53 +0000 http://blog.carlmercier.com/?p=53#comment-8472 spaceman: Rails has gone a LONG way since this incident happened. That was almost 1.5 year ago. Rails doesn't break, developers break things. As with any framework/language, good testing is a must. Rails errors are often hard to understand and/or completely irrelevant. It takes some time to get used to this, but once you've seen them a few times, it's almost a no brainer. I'd still recommend Rails over Django. If you must absolutely go Python, web.py is an awesome little framework to look at. MERB for Ruby is also excellent for smaller apps. spaceman: Rails has gone a LONG way since this incident happened. That was almost 1.5 year ago.

Rails doesn’t break, developers break things. As with any framework/language, good testing is a must.

Rails errors are often hard to understand and/or completely irrelevant. It takes some time to get used to this, but once you’ve seen them a few times, it’s almost a no brainer.

I’d still recommend Rails over Django. If you must absolutely go Python, web.py is an awesome little framework to look at. MERB for Ruby is also excellent for smaller apps.

]]> By: spaceman http://blog.carlmercier.com/2007/01/30/why-i-moved-from-ruby-on-rails-to-pythondjango-and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-8448 spaceman Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:28:02 +0000 http://blog.carlmercier.com/?p=53#comment-8448 "Well, I don’t have the crashes anymore. Don’t ask me why, I don’t know, but it’s fine now, I swear! Something somewhere got fixed and it seems to have solved the problem." This "I don't know why, but la la la." is what I hate about Rails developers. Their sites are going to break and not have the foggiest about how to fix them (if they're like this fellow). “Well, I don’t have the crashes anymore. Don’t ask me why, I don’t know, but it’s fine now, I swear! Something somewhere got fixed and it seems to have solved the problem.”

This “I don’t know why, but la la la.” is what I hate about Rails developers. Their sites are going to break and not have the foggiest about how to fix them (if they’re like this fellow).

]]> By: Python Framework Design Revisit at MuSMo - Free Music http://blog.carlmercier.com/2007/01/30/why-i-moved-from-ruby-on-rails-to-pythondjango-and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-1349 Python Framework Design Revisit at MuSMo - Free Music Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:08:14 +0000 http://blog.carlmercier.com/?p=53#comment-1349 [...] conforms to Carl Mercier’s entry on Why he moved from Ruby on Rails to Python/Django and back to RoR. It is afterall a framework that Carl understood best and felt most comfortable with. [...] [...] conforms to Carl Mercier’s entry on Why he moved from Ruby on Rails to Python/Django and back to RoR. It is afterall a framework that Carl understood best and felt most comfortable with. [...]

]]> By: darshan http://blog.carlmercier.com/2007/01/30/why-i-moved-from-ruby-on-rails-to-pythondjango-and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-492 darshan Thu, 05 Apr 2007 19:43:23 +0000 http://blog.carlmercier.com/?p=53#comment-492 > > Unlike Perl 6, Ruby 1.9 and the new VM are in the public > > SVN and can be checked out and used /today/. > OK, so what’s the performance improvement? About 3.5x: http://www.antoniocangiano.com/articles/2007/02/19/ruby-implementations-shootout-ruby-vs-yarv-vs-jruby-vs-gardens-point-ruby-net-vs-rubinius-vs-cardinal > > Unlike Perl 6, Ruby 1.9 and the new VM are in the public
> > SVN and can be checked out and used /today/.

> OK, so what’s the performance improvement?

About 3.5x:

http://www.antoniocangiano.com/articles/2007/02/19/ruby-implementations-shootout-ruby-vs-yarv-vs-jruby-vs-gardens-point-ruby-net-vs-rubinius-vs-cardinal

]]> By: alphabean http://blog.carlmercier.com/2007/01/30/why-i-moved-from-ruby-on-rails-to-pythondjango-and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-493 alphabean Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:02:36 +0000 http://blog.carlmercier.com/?p=53#comment-493 I used Java and learned struts framework.And found those xml based configurations were frustrating.Then I learned PHP framework like Cakephp but it does not seem well supported.I didn't try rails because i didn't want to learn another language.But now I shift to rails,and find ruby is a such powerful language that just I need. I used Java and learned struts framework.And found those xml based configurations were frustrating.Then I learned PHP framework like Cakephp but it does not seem well supported.I didn’t try rails because i didn’t want to learn another language.But now I shift to rails,and find ruby is a such powerful language that just I need.

]]> By: rubycorner.net - resources for ruby and rails development http://blog.carlmercier.com/2007/01/30/why-i-moved-from-ruby-on-rails-to-pythondjango-and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-484 rubycorner.net - resources for ruby and rails development Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:29:14 +0000 http://blog.carlmercier.com/?p=53#comment-484 [...] Why I moved from Ruby on Rails to Python/Django and back - Carl Mercier: “I am now at least twice as productive with Ruby on Rails than with ASP.NET”. This guy jumps into RoR world from ASP.NET, after that he tries python/django and at the end he is again happy with Ruby on Rails. It’s interesting to read his story. [...] [...] Why I moved from Ruby on Rails to Python/Django and back – Carl Mercier: “I am now at least twice as productive with Ruby on Rails than with ASP.NET”. This guy jumps into RoR world from ASP.NET, after that he tries python/django and at the end he is again happy with Ruby on Rails. It’s interesting to read his story. [...]

]]> By: Huw Collingbourne http://blog.carlmercier.com/2007/01/30/why-i-moved-from-ruby-on-rails-to-pythondjango-and-back/comment-page-1/#comment-491 Huw Collingbourne Tue, 06 Mar 2007 13:26:41 +0000 http://blog.carlmercier.com/?p=53#comment-491 Thanks for the comments. I'm afraid Ruby In Steel is a Visual Studio-only project. There are many things I like about the Mac (it looks nicer, for one thing). But I couldn't learn to live without VS ;-) and, to be honest, I don't think we would have been able to accomplish half as much as we have done if we'd been using any other platform (by 'platform', I mean Visual Studio itself which, once you dig inside it, seems to be more like a whole operating system than just an IDE). best wishes Huw Thanks for the comments. I’m afraid Ruby In Steel is a Visual Studio-only project. There are many things I like about the Mac (it looks nicer, for one thing). But I couldn’t learn to live without VS ;-) and, to be honest, I don’t think we would have been able to accomplish half as much as we have done if we’d been using any other platform (by ‘platform’, I mean Visual Studio itself which, once you dig inside it, seems to be more like a whole operating system than just an IDE).

best wishes

Huw

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